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    I've just gotten around to setting up a Daisy Reflector E39 Ø100cm US DY100US R.1.00

    Just now realizing some discrepancies between the specs listed by the retailer and the manufacturer; could be a problem.

    The retailer listed it as using hps, mh, and cfl. 1000W max. I wanted to try 600W mh/hps. All good.
    I notice the printed box states it's for use with hps, cfl, mh, and led. 1000w Max. Box also has a sticker stating 600w hps max.
    On the SJ site the description "advises" HPS and CFL. No mention of mh, led. 750W max hps. Seriously...
    Not confident I can plug a MH into this atm.
    Already sent an email to SJ support hoping for clarification.

    Weird.
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    The site seems to advise with regards to a specific floor area... but, yeah, that kinda sows the seeds of doubt!

    Whilst things will, more than likely, be fine, it'll be interesting to see what their support says....
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    I shouldn’t think you will have any worries well not off the top of my head anyway. I can’t think of there being a reason why you wouldn’t be able to use a MH bulb they produce the same amount of heat i think at least I can’t remember there being any real noticeable temp difference between MH and HPS bulbs. That is my brain mind so it’s probably totally arse about face


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    If memory serves me, MH produces more heat than HPS?

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    See i did say it was my brain so you’re more than likely right M_C. Ahhh yes thinking about it I used a 250MH and a 400HPS that would explain my fecking memory for you. That was a while back i use a Solis Tek now they use uv bulbs feck knows if that makes any difference. As you can tell i’m very well researched on my kit


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    I have an MH bulb but, as I use a cool tube, I'm just too lazy to swap them lol

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    I spelled out everything in my message to them, same as the original post, sans snark.
    They got back to me quickly with the following:

    Thanks for your interest.

    You can put a MH if the connector (socket) with the Daisy is ok.
    For the max wattage, we recommend to put 750w max.
    So I guess I'll brew some coffee, sit down, and have a heart to heart with the connector and see how it feels about MH...?
    Would a non "ok" socket be fine for hps for some inexplicable reason? I don't get the logic.

    Can't figure why the box would have a sticker stating "up to 600w max hps" and now I'm being told 750w max for MH (If that's what the reply even meant). MH should definitively run hotter from what I've read; less efficiency.

    Maybe just a mood, or I'm just not piecing this info together correctly, but I don't think things should be this confusing; not when it comes to safety.

    I'm just gonna keep writing them until I get a detailed explanation or they start ignoring me.

    In the end I might just run the hps on this thing, if anything.

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    Thank you for your response.

    I just want to make sure that I understand things correctly. I'm concerned about electrical safety and pretty new to this.
    Are you saying the Daisy Reflector E39 Ø100cm is designed to safely operate a 750W MH?

    Also, what is the reason for the sticker on the box stating "up to 600W with HPS."
    I'm having difficulty understanding the reasoning.

    Thanks again for your help.
    Hello,
    If you socket is compatible with the E30 100cm daisy reflector, yes you can use a MH 750w.
    We say "up to 600W with HPS" because you don't have HPS between 600w and 1000w.
    I think I get it now. The terminology was confusing me; between socket and screw base.
    Think he's just saying as long as the screw base of my bulb is E39 then I'm good to go up to 750W MH, which still isn't what is printed on the box, but I'm only running 600W. E30 must have been a typo.

    The sticker makes some sense now, as 750W HPS bulbs are rare/inefficient, but they do exist. ;P



    Inside the socket reads 1000W 400V.

    As an aside I picked up the following:

    E40 lamps typically fit E39 lamp holders, but E39 lamps will not fit E40 lamp holders correctly causing lamp problems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Digby Chicken Caesar View Post
    I think I get it now. The terminology was confusing me; between socket and screw base.
    Think he's just saying as long as the screw base of my bulb is E39 then I'm good to go up to 750W MH, which still isn't what is printed on the box, but I'm only running 600W. E30 must have been a typo.

    The sticker makes some sense now, as 750W HPS bulbs are rare/inefficient, but they do exist. ;P



    Inside the socket reads 1000W 400V.

    As an aside I picked up the following:

    E40 lamps typically fit E39 lamp holders, but E39 lamps will not fit E40 lamp holders correctly causing lamp problems.



    That's every 10 minutes of my life.
    Hahaha I totally understand where you’re coming from Sir Digby ,it’s way better to double if not triple check things. If you are not sure of things as at the end of the day even if nothing ever and I sincerely hope and wish it never does go wrong. Just the thought of not being sure can lead to the difference between enjoying the hobby and just spending every single day worrying which just makes the whole thing pointless as the stress out ways the pleasure. You can always get a automatic fire extinguisher fitted if you do get to that stage mind but that’s a bit of a extreme measure. I just got a pint glass of milk out side to throw over the electrics if it ever does catch on fire as i got told milk don’t conduct electricity so i should be safe
    But that was my ex girlfriend that told me that ... wait a fecking minute ????
    The lying tart!


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