How does a court decide on the seriousness of the cannabis cultivation offence...

[The Solyom]

I saw in the chat that there was a discussion on the ten plant rule and sentencing. Being very stoned and ashamed I have never known what the law states, I went searching for the answer. UK only laws.

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Cannabis level increments for quick ref:
Cat 1 - "cannabis – operation capable of producing industrial quantities for commercial use"
Cat 2 - "cannabis – operation capable of producing significant quantities for commercial use"
Cat 3 - "cannabis – 28 plants;*"
Cat 4 - "cannabis – 9 plants (domestic operation);*"
* With assumed yield of 40g per plant





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[scrote]

Sorry for causing you work mate - That was me casting doubt on the quantities.

Unfortunately, I am (mostly) right....according to the sentencing council guidelines the criteria has changed effective from April 1st 2021. The first time its changed in 50 years and its just as I was flipping to flower

Cat 3 is now listed as 20 plants (down from 28) and cat 4 is now 7 with an assumed yield of 55g/plant.

Can't post links here yet but its about here - sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/crown-court/item/production-of-a-controlled-drug-cultivation-of-cannabis-plant-2/

Not that it makes a huge difference either way to be honest. Personally I think the 10 plant limit draws a pretty good line between us percy growers and the cash croppers. I smoke about an oz a week (when I can!) so 2 or 3 10 plant grows a year is about perfect in my experience. Any bigger than that is starting to get a bit shady I think. Not that I disapprove - I score off these people whenever I ain't got any!

Anyway, who cares - the idea is to avoid the sentencing altogether, right?!

[GEORGE]

Florida Laws have change A lot since the last time I've read them. Today I was just reading, and they said you could get up to 5 years for less than 25 plants. Quite A bit of difference than it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago, they had it lisited as A meslanious and today it is listed as A felondy.

[IceCalibur]

We do re-visit this rule every year or so upstairs and although we do know it is actually 9 plants, the members seemed happy to leave it at 10, as were the staff members.

One of our members (chat moderator - Sadface), opened up the subject on the forum and we encouraged him to open a poll last year to see how the members feel about it.

Here is a link to the thread - The 10 plant rule


Image of the poll results for those that can't be arsed to check ;



One of our Moderators - gardro, also mentioned the change to 9 plants here - https://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-for...post1071056596

Some good posts in there for anyone who has the time for a read

[GEORGE]

I'd be happy with just one, 10 is much gravy. lol

[The Solyom]

Sorry for causing you work mate - That was me casting doubt on the quantities.

Unfortunately, I am (mostly) right....according to the sentencing council guidelines the criteria has changed effective from April 1st 2021. The first time its changed in 50 years and its just as I was flipping to flower

Cat 3 is now listed as 20 plants (down from 28) and cat 4 is now 7 with an assumed yield of 55g/plant.

Can't post links here yet but its about here - sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/crown-court/item/production-of-a-controlled-drug-cultivation-of-cannabis-plant-2/

Not that it makes a huge difference either way to be honest. Personally I think the 10 plant limit draws a pretty good line between us percy growers and the cash croppers. I smoke about an oz a week (when I can!) so 2 or 3 10 plant grows a year is about perfect in my experience. Any bigger than that is starting to get a bit shady I think. Not that I disapprove - I score off these people whenever I ain't got any!

Anyway, who cares - the idea is to avoid the sentencing altogether, right?!

Strangely, as is often in UK law there is some ambiguity.
Cat 4
It was 9 plants at 40g = 360g
Now it is 7 plants at 55g = 385g
So we veg for an extra few days with 7 plants and get 25g extra.

Cat 3
It was 28 plants at 40g = 1120g
Now it is 20 plants at 55g = 1100g
If I ever had the inclination to grow that many plants I'd go for 20 plants and lose the 20g. Shitload less work!

Thanks for the update fella.

I should point out, I only mentioned the 10 plant rule as that was the discussion on the chat. I never have more than 5 and thin them down to three as that's all my health allows me to manage. A Girl Scout Cookies is about to go to grow Heaven...

[Jesse_tpfi]

how the fuck are they bunging in 28 plants with 150g of heroin or cocaine?
it just goes to show what an absolute fucking shambles the UK law is regarding cannabis
if anything these ridiculous laws feed right into the hands of the 'criminals they are trying to stop'
the persistent 'blinkers on' attitude of the uk government is laughable and shows the interest of the people is not the driving force and never has been

[RASTA]

I was at court years ago. Guy had 50 plants. Got community service. But Im sure he gave excuses of employment. Kids, heavy toker. All that crap.
Depends on the judge sometimes I reckon. Actually.....I know it depends on judge sometimes. Theres this judge in Scotland who got removed from high court trials cause she was handing out heavy sentences which was way over board.
I will find out her name at a later date. Im sure her story was in the papers at the time lol

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[BeachBum]

Florida Laws have change A lot since the last time I've read them. Today I was just reading, and they said you could get up to 5 years for less than 25 plants. Quite A bit of difference than it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago, they had it lisited as A meslanious and today it is listed as A felondy.

Not sure where you seen that but in Florida it's illegal to grow weed, unless you are one of the few permitted corporations who have the medical dispensary's.
Just a handful of corporations have the right to grow and sell medical pot and I'm very certain they contributed a lot of money to get those rights. You can't get campaign contributions if you let anyone do it.

[M_C]

Strangely, as is often in UK law there is some ambiguity.
Cat 4
It was 9 plants at 40g = 360g
Now it is 7 plants at 55g = 385g
So we veg for an extra few days with 7 plants and get 25g extra.

Cat 3
It was 28 plants at 40g = 1120g
Now it is 20 plants at 55g = 1100g
If I ever had the inclination to grow that many plants I'd go for 20 plants and lose the 20g. Shitload less work!

Thanks for the update fella.

I should point out, I only mentioned the 10 plant rule as that was the discussion on the chat. I never have more than 5 and thin them down to three as that's all my health allows me to manage. A Girl Scout Cookies is about to go to grow Heaven...

I would like to think that any grower at THCTalk would be unimpressed at the thought of a mere 55g per plant...!