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    Gov webiste is currently saying it will be around 34p per kWh

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    They have 'price capped' the tariff and standing charges to the following as far as I can see ;



    Dual-fuel customers paying by direct debit ;

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    "Rates and standing charges are averages, which vary by region. Assumes payment via direct debit and includes VAT (at 5%). For those who pay each month after getting a bill, it's typically 6% higher."




    Payment via prepayment meter ;

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    "Rates and standing charges are averages, which vary by region. Assumes payment via prepayment meter and includes VAT (at 5%)."



    More information that may be helpful (I assume 'typical use' per year is the average home power usage) ;


    " The new price guarantee starts 1 October, and for someone on typical use will be £2,500 a year and it will last for two years.

    The current price cap is £1,971 a year at typical use, and was due to rise to £3,549 a year (and likely £5,400 a year in January). It was £1,277 a year last winter.

    This will be a cap on standing charges and unit rates, so use less, you pay less, use more, pay more (I'll publish the rates when I have them). There is no total cap on what you pay, the typical rate is just a figure for illustration.

    The new lower price cap includes getting rid of the green levies.

    The £400 payment to all homes (paid as £66 a month over winter) will continue.

    That will take the average payment to £2,100 a year.

    To estimate what you'll pay, over a year, multiply current costs by 6.5% (each £100 becomes £106.50). This includes the £400 discount (but not other payments).

    For those with lower than typical bills, the % increase will be lower, for higher users higher (as the £400 payment is flat regardless of use, so has a bigger proportionate reduction on lower usage).

    The £650 payments to those on many benefits will continue (half's already been paid).

    As will the £150 to those with disabilities and £300 to pensioners.

    There's no announcement on whether these payments will be in place next winter, I suspect the political reality is, at least for benefit recipients, similar will be paid next year.
    VAT is not being reduced in this announcement, but there is a chance (50-50 I'd say) that may happen in the Chancellor's fiscal statement next week
    For those on LPG and heating oil, I'm told there will be discretionary payments to help them too (awaiting details).
    For those in park homes and who pay landlords directly, I'm told they should benefit from the new business help (awaiting details).
    Since the announcement, I have heard the discount that is being applied to the price-capped tariffs is likely to be applied to all tariffs, including fixes (the new 'price guarantee' will effectively work as a per pound discount off the unit rates of the pre-planned 1 October price cap rate). If this is correct, many fixes that currently look costlier than the price guarantee will end up cheaper. Earlier, the information I was told by the Government was that "all can get out of a fixed tariff without exit penalties". This may have changed, so that it is left up to firms. I will confirm when I know, but be careful acting on any of this before it is cast iron. "

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    Great, I have a pre pay meter for my electric. Looks like I'll be paying 50p kWh
    And £3.50+ a week standing charge.
    Last edited by Doink; 10-09-22 at 09:57 PM.

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    I'm paying 10 cents for first 1,000, and 11 cents for all after that. So, 34 cents are pretty high.

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    This will lead to a lot of growers learning that they can grow excellent cannabis with much less light. I'm fairly certain that we overdue it with the lights (at least when using modern led) and a good portion of the light gets wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityDweller View Post
    This will lead to a lot of growers learning that they can grow excellent cannabis with much less light. I'm fairly certain that we overdue it with the lights (at least when using modern led) and a good portion of the light gets wasted.
    I'm more concerned about the dehumidifier to be honest, my light is only 270w and will probably only be on max for afew weeks. But the dehumidifier is 240w and needs to be on most of the time in this country in the autumn/winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doink View Post
    I'm more concerned about the dehumidifier to be honest, my light is only 270w and will probably only be on max for afew weeks. But the dehumidifier is 240w and needs to be on most of the time in this country in the autumn/winter.
    Next step would be to compare dehumidifiers and see how much can be saved with a different dehumidifier and how long it would take to pay for itself in savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityDweller View Post
    Next step would be to compare dehumidifiers and see how much can be saved with a different dehumidifier and how long it would take to pay for itself in savings.
    I only bought it last year. A Meaco 20l low power dehumidifier, rated A for efficiency. Would have to be quite the savings to go to all that ball ache to be honest.

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    Sorry, couldn't resist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doink View Post
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    Sorry, couldn't resist
    Lol. Truth is that when you said 240w it did not really click in my head how low that is. I'm not sure what my draw is. Probably a lot more. I'll have a look.

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