yeah I guess wine is out of the question before Christmas..I usually get myself a 6 crate of wine from Avios shopping points .I usually have enough to get 6 bottles free with my points every year..Think I will have to do that.. Off course I can still make some wine though..I will have to get cracking.All my brew has gone now,I got sick of the mild lol..I think Barley wine which is a strong beer so I will have to order a kit..
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