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    Marinol and Sativex are better than nothing but still doesn't beat the real thing, imho.

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    Blaze, Sativex IS the real thing, as its made from the whole plant, Marinol on the other hand is a synthetic THC (if thats what you can call it) pill that really is nothing like the real thing as it has none of the other compounds in it.

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    This is true, the pill had side effects if not less noticeable than none THC compounds and for all those chemist hard work it still has nothing on a little spliff in terms of effect and relief.
    Sativex still wont satisfy most users as the most effective method to take cannabis still is and will alway be smoking! I use a vaporizer during the day but will always want to burn me herb.

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    Well G when that scrog crops u n the old fella will be sorted for a year or so lol great thread, i have asthma, cannabis is said to help that i smoke joints tho cos i have terrible sleeping patterns, so i blaze one or 2 at night and that sorts me right out, i also noticed it helps with panic attacks/anxiety, i stopped
    Smoking for years tho cos it was makin me para all the time but im back on it now and im thinkin of givin up alcohol n bein a full time smoker!! Im glad you all get releif through the weed, wish theyd legalize it here so i can start growin trees in my livingroom lol

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    I just want to share this post. Like all the cases here, it strucked a nerve.

    Weed, Oil and Cancer
    I am a Stage IV breast cancer patient, dx in 2007, with spread to my intestines, abdomen, liver, and bones. In 2010, I started using the Phoenix Tears oil. I wish I could say it had cured my terminal cancer. It has not. But my prognosis, in 2007, was a year if I was lucky. I'm still here. Sure, I've had my close calls, but I just got back from a camping trip with my horse, so I'm doing pretty well for someone supposed to be dead by now. It has also helped my mental state and my insomnia quite a bit, and that's no small feat. I believe in the power of the cannabinoid so much that, despite the fact that it hasn't cured my cancer, I still use it, and recommend its use to others.

    And let me tell you how the oil helps me breeze through my chemo treatments. Well, I can't prove that empirically, but I have had chemo before and it does NOT make me feel strong and energized. But that's the way I have felt through chemo this time ... the only difference is the oil.

    And my weed gives me immediate relief within a minute or two when I need it. Many times food repulses me, but I have a couple of strains that enable me to eat when I normally wouldn't be able to. It can keep me from throwing up even if I get close enough to start salivating. That's impressive especially for me! I have a couple of strains that work just as well as Ativan or Xanax for anxiety and are much safer ... even healthy ... for the body. I also have some narcotic strains for when I wake up during the night unable to get back to sleep. Every single day this plant brings me relief and/or peace and joy. For a cancer patient, with fear being part of every day life, that's a miracle in itself.

    I think an MMJ recommendation should be prescribed for every cancer patient. Those who aren't using this wonderful medicine just don't know how much easier it could be.

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    As for me I've started smoking due to my 'anxiety' problem. So far it's been working. It's still too early to tell though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    Blaze, Sativex IS the real thing, as its made from the whole plant, Marinol on the other hand is a synthetic THC (if thats what you can call it) pill that really is nothing like the real thing as it has none of the other compounds in it.
    Is Sativex not just THC and CBD? leaving out the THCV and CBN among others?

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    I was under the impression that its basically just a cannabis tincture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The G is Stoned View Post
    I was under the impression that its basically just a cannabis tincture?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sativex

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    hey guys, just wanna point out the obvious (although you may not have considered this...

    we all know that, for example, broccoli is good for you, lots of iron, vit C etc etc..

    but you wouldn't expect to get much from it if you smoked it?

    All smoke is harmfull !

    Eat your weed!!

    a very small bud eaten raw every morning keeps me happy and still able to concentrate. I know that everyone is different, but you should really try it.

    It seems totally logic, no?
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    Since Jessica brought it up, there is a whole debate and (whats the term?) issue with Pheonix Tears. As some of you may know, it is claimed to be a cure for some cancers and symptom reliever. I have done some basic research on the issue and found that some inscrupulous people are making it inferior to the method and product that is suppose to be used and therefore ineffective. This is unfortunate as many that search for it spend quite alot of money on it and have their hopes up. This is all I will say on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katy View Post
    hey guys, just wanna point out the obvious (although you may not have considered this...

    we all know that, for example, broccoli is good for you, lots of iron, vit C etc etc..

    but you wouldn't expect to get much from it if you smoked it?

    All smoke is harmfull !

    Eat your weed!!

    a very small bud eaten raw every morning keeps me happy and still able to concentrate. I know that everyone is different, but you should really try it.

    It seems totally logic, no?
    What? lol I suppose actually that could work better for the working day as it stays in your system longer and the lack of carcinogenic mean not so much tiredness. I'll try it also vaporizers shouldn't be overlooked as they are not as damaging as smoking but give a more similar effect as appose to eating it. One could even grind a little bud, mixx with a little hot water and then neck the lot, if chomping through a nugget is off putting.

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    I won't go into specifics, but I am a new grower. I am hoping that the main CBD content of my crop will help with my very bad insomnia.
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    I'm a medicinal user in a way these days...

    I see it as essential food for my mind, body and soul, heart and creativity. Without it, I genuinely think I would probably have put myself to sleep by now.
    I'm not depressed, but life without weed is simply not worth living IMHO.
    Fpmsl @ smoking broccoli analogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Swilly View Post
    I'm a medicinal user in a way these days...

    I see it as essential food for my mind, body and soul, heart and creativity. Without it, I genuinely think I would probably have put myself to sleep by now.
    I'm not depressed, but life without weed is simply not worth living IMHO.
    Fpmsl @ smoking broccoli analogy.
    I hear you man. Although my difficulties are much less than many on here, my life was pretty shitty. I was in pain all the time, zombied from lack of sleep and exhausted as I could not rest. Cannabis life - I still have pain but much less intense and not as tiring or debilitating, and I am getting much, much more sleep, (I haven't been awake for over 36hrs straight in months. Life for me is much better this way.

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    I see it as essential food for my mind, body and soul, heart and creativity.
    some people on here will love ganga as much as me, but nobody loves it more than me!

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    Yeah I wasn't sure about going into details but then I thought fuck it, if there is one place I can say things that most of the time would get me arrested or I wouldn't want people around me knowing as they wouldn't understand this is the place. Ganja is THE medicine not just for illness but for life lol

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    hiatal hernia and gastritis, suffered since my late teens. For years they thought it could of been some sort of heart condition as its know to copy a lot of other symptoms apparently?
    Docs give me all sorts over the years but nothing beats a joint, all the meds and painkillers in the world cant live up to that single joint!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazefor20 View Post
    Since Jessica brought it up, there is a whole debate and (whats the term?) issue with Pheonix Tears. As some of you may know, it is claimed to be a cure for some cancers and symptom reliever. I have done some basic research on the issue and found that some inscrupulous people are making it inferior to the method and product that is suppose to be used and therefore ineffective. This is unfortunate as many that search for it spend quite alot of money on it and have their hopes up. This is all I will say on the matter.
    Same here did some research upon reading Melissaz situation. All seem to lead to Rick SImon. He suggested to better make your own if no reliable resource is available. But imagine the possibilities.

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    I'm schizophrenic and vaporizer daily to help make life that little bit bearable but the main thing that holds me down is having a fantastic and understanding partner who i've spent every day with since the age of 14, i'll leave it at that as i leave myself open to ridicule which i experience daily despite holding down a well paid job and putting food on the table for my family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessicaVan View Post
    Same here did some research upon reading Melissaz situation. All seem to lead to Rick SImon. He suggested to better make your own if no reliable resource is available. But imagine the possibilities.
    This is correct and the main scam difference is that some are making it with sativas or mixes. It supposedly has to be made with a pure indica strain and by precise step by step procedures. The vid explains it all and is easily found online.

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