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    Default Back once again, Dutch Passion Twilight, 12/12.

    Evening/Morning/Afternoon, (Delete as appropriate)

    I've come back to here as it was an endless source of information the last time round, bearing in mind the last time round, I was growing in a 16X9X12 speaker.
    I had to abandon that due to moving, and after living in a student house for 10 months whilst not being a student (yeah, it was hell), I've finally got my own little haven.
    After mulling the idea of growing outside and realising it was a tad bit late, I opted to go indoors again.
    This time around I've decided to scale it up from a microscopic speaker to a small-ish stealthy sideboard.

    I'll get some pictures up tomorrow, but a quick run through of whats what..

    I'm going to be growing Dutch Passion Twilight, Never had any experience with them, but they look good for the criteria I need to fill.
    Anyone with any experience of growing this strain, let me know, all I've been told is they take a while to get going indoors, and they're quite short.

    I'm using a 250 Blue, for 2 weeks of Veg, and going to a 400 Red CFL for flower, only going for 2 plants at a time, as it's for my personal use, I don't smoke a shit load, and have no need to have 13 plants on the go, like I did last time.
    So 1 X 400 should be plenty for the job

    They're going in Jiffy's to begin with, and then into Multi purpose John Innes, in raised 10cm pots, the light doesn't move the pots do.

    For nutes, the MPC&JI will see them through the first 2 weeks, and I've got Topmax Bloom as a booster.

    Still got all the PH meters and nute truncheons from the last grow.

    The cabinet itself is about 3.5 feet long, 3ft high and about 2ft in depth, temps sit at a steady 32C, Got a standard desk fan to get the air moving, and a carbon extractor to get rid of any potential smells, everything is on timers and a safety socket.

    I'm going 12/12 from 2 weeks onwards, as previously mentioned, apparently they're slow in veg but go nuts in flower, hopefully won't have to scrog them.

    Anyway, I'll get some pictures up tomorrow of the cabinet, and hopefully the seeds turn up tomorrow as well!
    If anyone can spot anything I've missed or overlooked, please let me know, also, if you have any knowledge of this strain, help a brotha out

    Thanks,
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    Sounds like you got a plan there BVG.

    Could you drop me a PM with the link to the 400w CFL? I couldn't find bigger than 250w myself...

    Thanks and good luck with the grow - Subbed!

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    you can get 300w cfl mate but dont no about 4

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    Nice to see another Dutch passion twilight grow, I did one recently along with another 4 diffrent strains in the same tent all under 1 x 100w HPS, I got 27g of it, Definitely need LST if you plan on keeping it low.


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    Sounds like a man with a plan

    Good luck this 'season' BenjaminVonGrimm

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid7 View Post
    you can get 300w cfl mate but dont no about 4
    I can get the 300w 6400k lamp but is there a 300w 2700k available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardon View Post
    I can get the 300w 6400k lamp but is there a 300w 2700k available?
    yes you can mate 300w red 2700k £31

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATO View Post
    Nice to see another Dutch passion twilight grow, I did one recently along with another 4 diffrent strains in the same tent all under 1 x 100w HPS, I got 27g of it, Definitely need LST if you plan on keeping it low.
    I'll be happy with somewhere around the 15-18g range, as I said, in it for a continual supply of smoke for myself, so I'd rather have quality, not quantity
    Not filling me with confidence on the height front though, what size did yours get to? I was under the impression they're short and squat?

    Quote Originally Posted by hardon View Post
    Sounds like you got a plan there BVG.

    Could you drop me a PM with the link to the 400w CFL? I couldn't find bigger than 250w myself...

    Thanks and good luck with the grow - Subbed!
    Cheers for the sub, but I have in actual fact, told a dirty rotten lie, and they're 300's, not 400, fuck knows where I got that idea from! Sorry for getting you all excited!

    Quote Originally Posted by goodbuddy View Post
    Sounds like a man with a plan

    Good luck this 'season' BenjaminVonGrimm
    Cheers, hopefully the smoke from last season hasn't wiped my memory on how to grow plants...

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    Day 2,

    No seeds, but a 'dispatch' email, so it's looking good for them arriving tomorrow, which after not seeing a seed for almost a year has me nearly slipping up on my own saliva.
    I'm that excited, that I can't be fucked to wait to get home, and I've swapped shifts with someone else.. Anorak.

    I realised earlier, that my memory isn't that bad, but I do seem to have got a bit rusty on the germination/seedling front..
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking.. Wet tissue, on a saucer, covered with a mug, stuck under lamp in grow cab, wait for tap root, insert into jiffy, keep in propagator under lamp for the first week, expose it to the environment after 7 days, wait for roots to pop out of the jiffy, and dunk in soil..?
    Vague I know, but if you can decipher that and go for a thumbs up, or call me a borederline alabaster, that would be ace

    Probably a good thing the seeds haven't turned up quite yet as I have a few small things to do first, such as insert this stuff:
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    Mmmm, shiny.
    This stuff is going to block out the gaps where light is coming through and give me a hand making the most out of the lighting, lets face it CFL's do the job, but they're no HPS when it comes to penetration, so getting the leaves from all angles is going to be essential.

    This is the Cabinet itself..
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    As you can see, it's a standard Homebase model, nothing is fucking straight and it costs more than the poor cunt that drills the wonky holes earns in a week.
    It's got visible gaps in the doors, but all will be solved using the above product.

    This is my crib yo'..

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    As you can see, if it's not essential, it ain't in there.
    Minimalist is the key here.
    I've got a desk fan to keep the air moving, a carbon filter to rid it of any smells, 3 timers, one for the fan, one for the filter, and one for the light.
    Simple, yet effective.. I hope.

    Now this is the bit where you're all gonna doom me to my height restriction.. The pint glasses are uses as my way of getting the plants close to the light to begin with, as the light isn't adjustable, I've screwed it to the underside of one drawer.. Bold move.

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    Yes, it's not the tallest of spaces, but I'm actually quietly confident that it'll be controllable, if it's not, well.. You all get a laugh out of me with my cheap European built furniture a'la burning plant hanging out of it like a badly packed kebab.

    Beautiful..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminVonGrimm View Post
    Yes, it's not the tallest of spaces, but I'm actually quietly confident that it'll be controllable, if it's not, well.. You all get a laugh out of me with my cheap European built furniture a'la burning plant hanging out of it like a badly packed kebab.

    Beautiful..
    Looks awesome man! And I wouldn't worry about the height - That is what LST is for

    Is that a 300w lamp in there now? What are your temps like?

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardon View Post
    Looks awesome man! And I wouldn't worry about the height - That is what LST is for

    Is that a 300w lamp in there now? What are your temps like?

    Cheers,
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    I wanted to keep it small and simple, and I think it's achieved that

    Yeah, it's a 300, I had two in a tent for my first 'proper' grow during summer last year, and temps hit 42c during the heatwave, sit's between 30-32 in this, so fairly steady.

    To be perfectly honest I'm not too fussed about the space, based on the last grow I did, I had 16inches of height to work with, this is like going from a one bed flat to a mansion!
    A lot of people starting off think you need 6ft+ to grow good weed, and the plants have to be the size of trees, which is perfect if you've got the space, but a lot of people don't want a giant tent, I fucking hated mine, it was an eyesore and no-one could go in the room where it was because it was so fucking obvious.

    Anyway, the beans have just turned up, so I'mma crack on and I'll do an update in a bizzle ma'nizzle

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    As previously mentioned, the beans turned up, I always get a laugh out when the Royal Mail hand what is essentially drugs in a brown paper parcel to me on my doorstep.
    And here they are..
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    I chose these for the apparent short squat type nature of them, as I don't want an unruly 6 ft tall plant, plus letting my feminine side go.. They looked pretty.
    Judge all you want.

    Ok.. You can stop now.

    Anyway, I've gone for the wet paper towel method, on a saucer, with a cover over the top to help keep moisture in, it's got 100% strike rate for me, and I've never failed to get a tap root out of a seed, that said, my skills in keeping them alive after that, are somewhat questionable.
    Ah, and they're currently under the light to keep them around 30 degrees C, should pop within 24 hours.

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    I got a bit bored waiting for Mr Postman to turn up today and being the sly gambler that I am, completely forgot I had a Ladbrokes account, so I signed in, and realised I had £36 in there from a bet for England to get knocked out by Italy, Brilliant you'd think? A bit like finding money.. Except I couldn't withdraw this money.
    What I had done is put the original stake on using a credit card, which I have recently paid off, so I can't withdraw the money as you can't have positive funds on a credit card, so i spent some money... On more seeds.
    (Here we go... My house is going to look like a jungle again soon.)

    What I've decided to do is have a rolling conveyor of plants, as one set of two is reaching the last 3-4 weeks, I pop the next set.
    So the line up so far is as follows:




    Plant Set number One - Dutch Passion Twilight.


    Sex: Feminized
    Type: Indica & Sativa
    Flowering: Photoperiod
    Height: Short
    Area: Indoor & Outdoor
    Genetics: 100% Indica

    Dutch Passion Twilight seeds from the Dutch Passion combine the best qualities of her well known parents, Pure Brazil and KC 606. They produce beautifully striking purple plants with high yields of quality marijuana with a slightly Afghan taste. They are now available in a feminized version. Twilight seeds developed by the Dutch Passion seed breeders possess exquisite qualities of Brazilian sativa but with an earlier finishing time to allow outdoor cultivation where she shows her full potential. They show high resistancy to stress and some diseases. It's quite easy to vegetate and manage this cannabis variety. We could definitely recommend her to beginners. Twilight cannabis seeds are strong and consistent. Experienced marijuana growers may notice a high indica output already at the early growing stage. Plants of this variety are short and bushy with a typical x-mas shape. They seem to produce less bud sites than their sativa counterpartner, however, all buds are extremely dense and sticky, covered with short shiney hair full THC which is said to be 15+%. Medicine produced from this cannabis indica dominant plants have higher CBD and lower THC counts and, therefore, have a heavier, sleepy type of high. If compared with wine, it's a good red one. Twilight marijuana seeds mature outdoors in just 7 – 8 week and are ready to harvest in September/October. Already at the beginning of flowering, a strong, hashy Brazilian flavour start appearing and remain throughout maturing. The finished product is very pleasant to smoke; it's got a slightly Afghan hash smell and taste and produces a very powerful stoned effect.




    Plant Set Number Two - Landraces Pakistan Valley


    Sex: Regular & Feminized
    Type: Indica
    Flowering: Photoperiod
    Height: Medium
    Area: Indoor & Outdoor
    Genetics: Pure race obtained from Pakistan Kush zone

    World of Seeds Landraces Pakistan Valley proceeds from mountainous system of Hindu Kush (north of Pakistan). Some years after we have been selecting the best lance strains from kush, we bring to your indoor a pure lance indica. Unmistakable by its robust and branched external look, and by its intense smell and high strength, Pakistan Valley makes an excellent indoor variety. European marijuana growers use Pakistan Valley cannabis seeds mainly for indoor use with as brilliant yield as 400 gr/m2 from as high as 1,5m plant. However, if you prefer to grow it outdoors you will harvest as much as 400-600 gr/m2 from as high as up to 2m plant. It doesn’t take more than 3 weeks to get lovely buds with fruity smell and fruity sweet taste as well as with very narcotic effect. It’s a 100% indica with THC content as high as 21,2 %. You don’t have to be an experience cannabis grower as Pakistan Valley is resistant to fungus and plague and has high irrigation.



    Plant Set Number Three - Delicious Seeds Cheese Candy

    Sex: Feminized
    Type: Indica & Sativa
    Flowering: Photoperiod
    Height: Medium
    Area: Indoor & Outdoor
    Genetics: Caramelo x Cheese

    Delicious Seeds have crossed two of the best commercial genetics: Cheese, a unique female derived from SKUNK x KUSH which first appeared 1988-89 and which was cultivated somewhere in the Chiltern Hills by the squatter collective known as Exodus that was central to UK cannabis-related activity throughout the 90s. It produces impressively large buds and has a distinctive cheesy odour. Quickly cloned and baptised as Cheese, they’ve taken this beautiful specimen and crossed it with one of their best strains; Caramelo, which is a spectacular selection of the best exotic LAVENDER Indica and Sativa phenotypes (SUPER SKUNK – BIG SKUNK KOREAN – AFGHANI-HAWAIIAN). This plant produces dense bunches of resin-covered buds emanating a lavender and passion fruit aroma. Delicious Seeds Cheese Candy is an explosive commercial combination, this plant produces enormous buds in heavy lateral bunches covered in millions of trichomes bursting with a mild cheesy fragrance. Dare to try their Cheese Candy. Its yeasty cheese taste with liquorice and caramel overtones will blow your mind. While the initial effect is euphoric, after a few minutes it will leave you in a very relaxed and pleasurable state and is therefore recommended for daily therapeutic use.


    Plant Set Number Four - Ch9 Female Seeds Vintage 2006

    Sex: Feminized
    Type: Indica & Sativa
    Flowering: Photoperiod
    Height: Short
    Area: Indoor & Outdoor
    Genetics: Afghan / Power plant / Jack herer X Afghan / Power plant / Jack herer

    Ch9 Female Seeds Vintage 2006 is one of the fastest vintage afghani influences hybrid. Vintage 2006 is a very easy to keep short and study plant. It will express a lot of Jack Herer hybrid phenotypes from very sweet aroma to more narcotic leaning towards the Jack 33 hazey, sweet, fresh flavour. Vintage 2006 comes with a fast uplifting start. It's cannabis seeds will complete flowering in 7 weeks and can be grown both indoor and outdoor. Indoor yield can grow up to 60-70 gr indoor with 35-45 days of veg Outdoor yield average of 260 gr outdoor or more depend on vegetative time and season. Up to 350 gr.


    Plant Set Number Five - Female Seeds White Widow

    Sex: Feminized
    Type: Indica & Sativa
    Flowering: Photoperiod
    Height: Short
    Area: Indoor & Outdoor
    Genetics: Indica/Sativa multi - hybrid

    Female Seeds White Widow made it’s breakthrough in the mid 90’s with its buds so full of resin that it looks "sugared", with a tremendous knock-out stone. Unfortunately it was a low yielding strain. During the last 7 years we succeeded to increase it to a medium yielding strain without losing its tremendous character. The plants can be put on 12/12 hrs after two weeks and they will stay short. White Widow is an Indica/sativa multi-hybrid with indica characteristics. White Widow cannabis seeds flower between 8-9 weeks and can be harvested outdoors at the end of October.


    Plant Set Number Six - Delicious Seeds Sugar Black Rose

    Sex: Feminized
    Type: Indica
    Flowering: Photoperiod
    Height: Short
    Area: Indoor & Outdoor
    Genetics: Critical + x Black domina

    Delicious Seeds Sugar Black Rose is another indica cannabis strain from the Delicious Seeds. seeds of this variety become more and more popular for their fast and easy growing characteristics and heavy yields. Being 80%indica, this cannabis strain is said to have a great medical value and is used as a relaxant, effective for anxiety, pain, nausea, appetite stimulation, sleep, muscle spasms and tremors. Like any other indica dominant variety, Sugar Black Rose possesses a strong resistance to mould and shows an ability to cope well with a mild stress. She produces short dense plants, with broad leaves of a dark green shade which are suitable for indoor and outdoor cultivation. Mature plants are very pretty with large flowers turning into chunky nuggets in just 50-55 days. When growing indoors, feminized cannabis seeds of this marijuana variety respond well to all growing methods and produce a yield of 350 gr per m2 after typically indica's 7-8 weeks. Outside harvest starts in the middle of September and is as good as 450 gr of great marijuana per plant. By the end of flowering, a gentle musk aroma starts to appear and remains in the cured product. Those, who have already tried, describe the bouquet of aromas as very unique and complex, almost flowery and not skunky at all. Sugar Black Rose is ready taking over the strongest marijuana varieties in the world, her THC content is said between 18+% with a nice sweet taste. Marijuana of this indica has a relaxing social high, which allows you to sense and feel the environment, but does not lead to thinking or analyzing the experience.





    Money well spent methinks, and actually quite excited about growing some of these

    Off to ration myself a bit of last years stash, Which has got to see me through until I get some of this lot!
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    Hopefully when I get back from work at 12ish I'll have the start of a root

    I'll keep you updated, Laters Guy's and Gal's!


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    [QUOTE=BenjaminVonGrimm;1069253121]I'll be happy with somewhere around the 15-18g range, as I said, in it for a continual supply of smoke for myself, so I'd rather have quality, not quantity
    Not filling me with confidence on the height front though, what size did yours get to? I was under the impression they're short and squat?

    Well at the end of the day they are an outside strain, 100% indica, Plants grow to 1-1.5m tall and have good yields, I was amazed with mine Considering it was sharing a 100w HPS with 4 others and still produced an oz,I really liked the smoke, It was the tallest out of all I grew at the time, I bent it in half, still grew to about 1ft, If you wanna take a look in my purple delights grow link below, You can see how I managed to keep it small, Best of luck fella, ATO

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    [QUOTE=ATO;1069253570]
    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminVonGrimm View Post
    Well at the end of the day they are an outside strain, 100% indica, Plants grow to 1-1.5m tall and have good yields, I was amazed with mine Considering it was sharing a 100w HPS with 4 others and still produced an oz,I really liked the smoke, It was the tallest out of all I grew at the time, I bent it in half, still grew to about 1ft, If you wanna take a look in my purple delights grow link below, You can see how I managed to keep it small, Best of luck fella, ATO
    Just taken a look at your grow of the Twilight, looks fucking beautiful man, really wasn't expecting it to look that good! Impressed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminVonGrimm View Post
    Plant Set Number Five - Female Seeds White Widow

    Sex: Feminized
    Type: Indica & Sativa
    Flowering: Photoperiod
    Height: Short
    Area: Indoor & Outdoor
    Genetics: Indica/Sativa multi - hybrid

    Female Seeds White Widow made it’s breakthrough in the mid 90’s with its buds so full of resin that it looks "sugared", with a tremendous knock-out stone. Unfortunately it was a low yielding strain. During the last 7 years we succeeded to increase it to a medium yielding strain without losing its tremendous character. The plants can be put on 12/12 hrs after two weeks and they will stay short. White Widow is an Indica/sativa multi-hybrid with indica characteristics. White Widow cannabis seeds flower between 8-9 weeks and can be harvested outdoors at the end of October.
    Good call my friend....

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    We have lift off, popped within 12 hours!
    Stuck them into the Jiffy's, and have them at ground level under the lights, didn't want them too high up until they're a bit bigger and can deal with it.

    May not be an update for a couple of day's, weekends are my busiest time of the week, will take pictures daily though and probably do a bulk upload on the Monday when I have time off.

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    Bonjour,

    Little ones are coming along steadily, they're just about to break the surface as I can see the cotyledon's coming through.

    Temps seem to have got a bit higher for some reason and are reaching about 38C, not sure if it's the fact
    A) The weather has been warmer.
    B) I've set the house heating to come on in the morning, which is when I check them, so it'd be higher,
    C) The Mylar lining is increasing heat,
    D) Or my 3 hour test run was just a waste of time..

    Either way, it's one of those things, and I need to find a way of pushing some fresh air into the space, that doesn't involve dodgy PC fans connected to mobile chargers, or having to drill massive holes for ducting and somewhat negating the 'stealth' element.. But I've got a feeling that might be the only way.
    Anyone with any advice would be much obliged


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    Temps are getting a tad bit high, came home to 41 Degrees C, really need some form of air intake, budget isn't a problem, size is, so that rules out adding another extractor due to size, so if anyone has a link to something that'll drag in fresh air that doesn't involve dodgy wiring, EG: PC Fan attached to mobile charger, that would be uber helpful.. thanks inn advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminVonGrimm View Post
    Temps are getting a tad bit high, came home to 41 Degrees C, really need some form of air intake, budget isn't a problem, size is, so that rules out adding another extractor due to size, so if anyone has a link to something that'll drag in fresh air that doesn't involve dodgy wiring, EG: PC Fan attached to mobile charger, that would be uber helpful.. thanks inn advance!
    Bigger intake holes. I think you already know this but there isn't much else you can do and if your temps are that high, you need to get it sorted asap.

    Cheers,
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    I love the fact you're implying I have intake holes... May have overlooked that in the design process.

    I grew Northern Lights last time, as a tent grow in a loft, in summer, and it was always around the 38-42 bracket and they survived, infact, they loved it, they were always lush and green.. Assuming the adverse effect is stress?
    But on the other hand, surely in their native countries the heat get's in excess of that?

    ATB

    BVG


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