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    I've heard about a bloke who cut the tops of his buds flat as they first start forming. So I thought I would test it out.
    Thought this would be the best place to put it.
    So I took a nice top bud in the middle of the groom.
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    I then cut the top off
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    I wonder what's going to happen?
    Here's what I cut off
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    Anyone done this before?
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    We know 13.11 works, extra 56 hours of light over an 8 week period compared to 12.12

    I tried 2 autos in 1 aquafarm but they had to be cut down early due to personal circumstance, they did well till I chopped them but still unproved

    Great thread gb

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    Iv got 2 Utopia haze that are just abt to start flowering.
    1 has been topped and the other left alone.
    They are the same age (from seed) and have been treated exactly the same so far.
    I know topping is ment to increase yield and possibly decrease potency.
    Iv also read threads where topping didnt change much so I am going to continue treating these plants exactly the same and report on yield and quality.

    Im sure both planys are the same pheno to and I know a more true test would be from clones but I think a general idea will be achieved.
    Also its good to read other peoples results but also good to do them urself as THE WAY you do things could be different from others,, ie germination of seeds....some cant do it with paper towels and some cant do it other ways,, surely people are not doing it the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ph1 View Post
    We know 13.11 works, extra 56 hours of light over an 8 week period compared to 12.12

    I tried 2 autos in 1 aquafarm but they had to be cut down early due to personal circumstance, they did well till I chopped them but still unproved

    Great thread gb
    Hi Ph1, works in what way? Increase in yeild as opposed to 12/12, or speeds up flowering?

    Not something I've heard of before, don't suppose you have link?

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    Great thread GB, really interesting contributions as well folks.

    Being an outdoor grower, I've always wondered about this 12/12 lark. I suppose that I've assumed that 12/12 is 'playing it safe', to make sure that they go into flowering, no matter what the strain. Outside, in 30 odd years of growing, they have always started flowering before the end of August (except this year, funnily enough), sometimes as early as late July.
    So, in other words they have started flowering at 15/9 or 14/10 (light/dark), if you wait till 12/12 (September 21st), outdoor plants would never finish.
    I suppose this is due to the Indica %, as tropical Sativas are on 12/12 year round.

    Just a few random thoughts.

    All good things
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    Errm, I meant 13/11, not 15/9 lol, stoners eh?

    All good things
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE DUDE ABIDES View Post
    Great thread GB, really interesting contributions as well folks.

    Being an outdoor grower, I've always wondered about this 12/12 lark. I suppose that I've assumed that 12/12 is 'playing it safe', to make sure that they go into flowering, no matter what the strain. Outside, in 30 odd years of growing, they have always started flowering before the end of August (except this year, funnily enough), sometimes as early as late July.
    So, in other words they have started flowering at 15/9 or 14/10 (light/dark), if you wait till 12/12 (September 21st), outdoor plants would never finish.
    I suppose this is due to the Indica %, as tropical Sativas are on 12/12 year round.

    Just a few random thoughts.

    All good things
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    I did suggest a couple of years back that you start at 12/12 then when everything is flowering nicely up the hours to 14/10 I have never been in a postion to try it since but its on my todo list.
    Once a plant is flowering then she really does want to flower so thats why it takes so long to re-veg even when setting it back to 18/6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Swilly View Post
    Attention all qvc viewers...lol. I like tomorite, but this is much better......

    Richard jacksons flower power is a great feed to feed your plants. It is not organic, but I have used it and can thoroughly recommend it. Come in granules which dissolve easy in cold water. Just throw a pinch or two per 5 litres and jobs a goodun. I have had better results with this than other canna feed, biobizz, hesi etc. 18 quid for 750g is not bad and would prob last a few years for someone with a 600hps.

    http://www.richardjacksonsgarden.co....um-plant-food/

    Here's a soil grow using it under a 600. I found it dead easy, no problems really and lots of budsites and foliage as you can see. Some canopy pics and some individual plant pics.. All fed on this stuff, and some piss for extra n.





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    Here's another one to consider...

    2 days in 24hrs. Lightcycles/photoperiods/Flowering experiment
    Run a 9/3 Veg and 6/6 Flower cycle thereby ageing the plant twice as fast.....and finishing it twice as fast....it may half the yield and might not work at all but I have a suspison that it is a combination of age and day/night-length ratios that effect the flowering responses as opposed to age and minimum required dark period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodbuddy View Post
    Here's another one to consider...

    2 days in 24hrs. Lightcycles/photoperiods/Flowering experiment
    Run a 9/3 Veg and 6/6 Flower cycle thereby ageing the plant twice as fast.....and finishing it twice as fast....it may half the yield and might not work at all but I have a suspison that it is a combination of age and day/night-length ratios that effect the flowering responses as opposed to age and minimum required dark period.
    interesting squire. i did a good bit of reading up and experimenting on light schedules in 2008-9. but was never convinced of flowerng with less than 11 hrs dark. but veg wise i tried it and v interesting.
    however, there were a few die hrds that were convinced you could flowe as long as the dark/light were equal and they claimed they had completed it successfully.. (although i remain unconvinced)

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    Maybe someone should ask rags to create a experiment category for all these experiments going on. Or has anyone already mentioned that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowed View Post
    Maybe someone should ask rags to create a experiment category for all these experiments going on. Or has anyone already mentioned that?
    Just how mullered were you mate Have you seen which section this thread is in pmsl

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowed View Post
    Maybe someone should ask rags to create a experiment category for all these experiments going on. Or has anyone already mentioned that?
    Quote Originally Posted by goodbuddy View Post
    Just how mullered were you mate Have you seen which section this thread is in pmsl
    Tee Hee Hee. Think mellowed better change his name to mullered after that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodbuddy View Post
    Just how mullered were you mate Have you seen which section this thread is in pmsl
    Lol very very. shit man, I didn't even notice to be honest, when did these section appear?? I've not been on web version of thctalk for over a year now so its probably all changed. I'm gonna hunt down this mystery section and investigate this further. Cheers mate.



    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Sindigo View Post
    Tee Hee Hee. Think mellowed better change his name to mullered after that one!
    Lol. Nah I ain't changing it again.

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    Numbers 11 is the one for me.
    Here's my autoflower
    It was vegged for 3 weeks on 18/6 and has been on 12/12 for five weeks
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    I got one for your 1 or 2 bulbs goodbuddy.. I got a kings kush in its final week .. x2 46 watt cfls all the way this one was from 2 weeks ago this one takin just now along with this one

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    just wondering if this thread is still active? I am starting a pc grow soon and will put a single 30w bulb (2700k) and after 2nd (or 3rd from clone) grow ill add a second holder and run 2x25w 6500K cfls in veg and 2x30w 2700k in flower. also i have another cab which i will run some clones in from a mother super critical. i will try the 24H in the dark before flower and 3-7 days in the dark after flower. also i might try changin light cycles when in flower, but that will be another time (after ive built another bedside cab.) i might even try some grows wit the spectrums the wrong way round or some other ideas if you have em?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKETCHMICRO View Post
    just wondering if this thread is still active? I am starting a pc grow soon and will put a single 30w bulb (2700k) and after 2nd (or 3rd from clone) grow ill add a second holder and run 2x25w 6500K cfls in veg and 2x30w 2700k in flower. also i have another cab which i will run some clones in from a mother super critical. i will try the 24H in the dark before flower and 3-7 days in the dark after flower. also i might try changin light cycles when in flower, but that will be another time (after ive built another bedside cab.) i might even try some grows wit the spectrums the wrong way round or some other ideas if you have em?
    Definitely active sketch

    If it gets people experimenting, messing, having a go with that thing they've heard, or trying out the not so obvious then it's working in my book Plus, you and we all learn from it good or bad

    Like the spectrum idea, especially in early life of the plants (even try using bloom nutes as opposed to grow in the first 3 weeks as plants use more PK putting those first roots down than they do growing the green stuff)

    It'd be good to do a side by side if you've got the space/set-up to do it too

    Don't forget to keep us updated

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    i will try a few different things mate i have a cab going atm with 3x30w an a 25w clf supercritical scrog in. but as i say im making a couple more. ill add pics of the current grow space at some point. and a link to my other build and grow page. i just started a bag bean now so will be looking to turn her (fingers crossed) into a mother kept sumwhere haha. poxy post from china, foget that is cheap and buy local, quicker simpler easier and it keeps ecconimy going( thats my excuse and im sticking to it)

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    holders for pl-ls are here. ive decided to run em in bedside cab for now but am still looking into some experimentation. let me know any ideas an if i can ill try em will all be micro tho.

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